$670.80. *Note the cast off is 1" which is more than normal but would be perfect for the person that has a large beard or face that would require this. The single best, and most economical arm for hunting and defense in the Old West was the side by side, double-barreled shotgun. Hamilton Stagecoach Double Barrel Hammer Shotgun, made circa 1890, in Liege, Belgium. It might be better to purchase a 20ga coach gun to lesson the recoil and Im sure #2 or #3 buckshot in 20ga, especially in the home would handle any man or dog or animal with zero problems. These French guns are the bases for the Remington model 32 but like most guns from the French are much more refined and balanced than the American version. Very solid Westley which could be used as is or restored to new glory. Great dimensions and barrels . I agree with your comment, Ed. The Chinese-made shotguns feature exposed hammers and double triggers. W. Palmer Jones. I keep a Stoeger Coach gun loaded with 3 000 buck by my bedside for things that go bump in the night. For those in an urban setting, the shotgun with proper loads makes for a good Brooklyn special. LARGE ENGLISH HUDSON BAY DOG-LOCK MARKET PUNT GUN CIRCA EARLY 1800S. *Chokes are tight but can easily be opened. Barrel #2 is a Remington copper solid slug. Light and in excellent condition in with stock dimensions for someone very special . If I did my part they dropped dead. They are in excellent condition and measure perfectly. I prefer the #4 buck to 00. Mechanically functions fine and features a side lever barrel release. Its simple, with practice you get good at what you use. We could add a pad to get it over 16" if needed! Of course, their use wasnt limited to stagecoaches. Just like a hammerless shotgun. Very nice sharp gun overall! Items per page: 24 36 48. Many have heard of the "Kerstan" rib extension extra bite. These are short-barreled, side-by-side Ithaca shotguns that were easy to bring to bear and shoot while inside the drivers box. I have to ask: When you say Size of shot pattern for birdshot to buck shot no more than a quater under 15 , have you actually patterned your gun? Vintage Double Barrel Shotgun Forearm Iron Parts lot Stevens Savage Ithaca Read. on the other hand, i loved my dads MOSSBERG 12 gauge pump, with a POLLY choke, for everything else. For home defense Good high brass or even low brass bird shoot like #6 or even 7 1/2 works great because you are most likely at point blank to across a room at most. They were most often chambered for 12- or 10-gauge shells and had exposed double hammers and double triggers to match. Bright shiny bores. Think of it this way the 12 gage is the same bore diameter as the 72 caliber Brown Bess musket of 1776, and the 20 gage is the same diameter as the 58 caliber Springfield and Enfield rifle-muskets of 1860. 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DAVID KIRKWOOD 10 GAUGE HAMMERLESS SHOTGUN GI#: 102222780 Gun features a pistol grip checkered walnut stock. A coach gun is a modern term, coined by gun collectors, for a double-barreled shotgun, generally with barrels from 18 to 24 inches (460 to 610 mm) in length, placed side-by-side.These weapons were known as "cut-down shotguns" or "messenger's guns" from the use of such shotguns on stagecoaches by shotgun messengers in the American Wild West.They came in 10 and 12 gauge blackpowder variants. Dont get me wrong, itll thump your rear like an angry mule with hemerroids using 00 buck, rifled slugs, 3 heavy high wall brass, magnums doesnt matter, itll eat it. This gun was imported by VL&D of NY in probably the 1920's. It is possible it could be bent half and inch or more. I have shot this gun and I have to say it handles extremely well. Game Wardens wouldnt keep let him the bear, but he did keep the newspaper clipping in his scrapbook. A crack by screw hole on the lo, It has a very interesting conversion to breech loading shotgun in 20 GA. Hammer must be pulled to cock position to draw the spring loaded firing pin back that has been neatly inserted into the breech, British BARBER of NEWARK Antique SxS Double Barrel 20 Ga. FLINTLOCK Shotgun ENGRAVED and GOLD Banded Side by Side Here we present an antique English Barber of Newark Flintlock Double Barrel Shot, Antique CASED & Engraved MANTON Percussion DOUBLE BARREL SxS HAMMER Shotgun Early to Mid-19th Century European 14 Gauge Side by Side Here we present an antique Cased and Engraved Manton Perc, "This very unusual Nickerson Patent percussion breech loading shotgun was made in 1850. I could be wrong, but thats just the way I see it. For personal defense, the double-barrel handles quickly and points well. Many companies would offer their double-barrel models from the factory with 12- to 24-inch barrels. This gun is field ready. By the time messengers for Wells Fargo & Co. were running the route from Tipton, Missouri, to San Francisco in 1858 laden with passengers and gold, that fact hadnt changed much from the Robin Hood days. Side-by-side shotguns are often used in Cowboy Action Shooting competition. Many considered it short compared to a hunting gun at the time. As you can see in the pictures this gun is in excellent condition for it's age! The 41 inch has a brown patina and is marke, 1800s ENGRAVED Antique German Percussion Back Action SxS 16 Gauge Shotgun Mid-1800s Double Barrel Fowling Gun Here we present an antique German Double Barrel Percussion Side by Side Hammer, Fine French flintlock, double-barrel, 20-bore Sporting Gun with British proof marks, ca. My double barrel has few parts, is impossible to jam, needs no safety and shows me whats in the chamber every two shots. Everyones budget and circumstances do not allow purchasing an expensive defensive shotgun. We all want to think people are sane but they are NOT. Double-Barrel for Defense For personal defense, the double-barrel handles quickly and points well. The extra barrel doesnt add nearly as much weight or awkwardness as you might think, and the gun just feels good and shoots really well. Obviously ready for the field as is but this would be a fun one to give a new oil finish to the wood and with a light pick up of the checkering. The front action percussion lock is unmarked and there are no proofs on this gun. Like the double-barrel version, the Triple Threat accepts Rem choke tubes, allowing for a different choke on each barrel, if desired. Westley Richards boxlock with very nice nitro proofed Damascus 30" barrels and gun weighs only 6 lbs.! Not so! My wife knows how to use, though the recoil is pretty rough in the 12 gauge model. The Western Cowboy Back / Saddle Coach Shotgun Scabbard is made of top grain leather and is available in Black or Brown Colors of. A very solid 2 3/4" gun with great barrels and bores. and is 2 3/4" proofed ~ Ribless with double triggers! and RR Thurston Gun #: 928505970 Seller: HunterOneTrigger $800.00 Full Details 79 Image (s) Im a big fan of the Coach gun. We wish we did not have to consider this, but sometimes we do. A very nice petite 20g by George Bate, a small but well-respected English gun maker in the center of the Birmingham gun trade on Steel House Lane. Gun is tight on face and in proof so can be taken afield. Churchill "Utility" Grade XXV with famous Churchill rib and weighs in at 6 lbs. Affordable and powerful, it is worth a look. While prior to the advent of metallic cartridges, the blunderbuss and muzzle loaded side by side were known as coach guns, that term has also been carried forth to include side by side shotguns as often seen up on the boot of stagecoaches in the Old West. But otherwise , thank you for the very technical legal advice as Im sure its a benefit to us all who did plan on shooting those fleeing from us when the opportunity came. Sale price! Bob, That may well be true and no argument there. 10 1/4-11 1/2 rifle-caliber carbine is superior in every way. Weight empty is 8 pounds. 6 oz.. Manufrance Ideal Grade 2R ~ This is the Classic French Round Action, Army & Navy 16g. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. Original, English Engraved ROBINSON & SON Antique ~7 Gauge Shotgun Fowler PERCUSSION Large Bore FOWLING Piece .90 Caliber Here we present an antique L. Robinson & Sons Large Bore Fowling Piece. This is a neat little bead-sighted shotgun that handles well. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 05:25. If you know me at all you know my favorite gauge for the field is 16g. *This has great choking for upland game, wood cock, and grouse. I do NOT like hammer guns for self defense a hammer-less double will give you the second shot without any practice. A lighter load first and then buckshot for problems inside the home. This classic London Lancaster assisted opener is in very nice condition. Antique Percussion Cape Gun Pontiac Mich. G.W. 14-1/4 inches LOP. Those little shells in 8 shot make for a fun range pairing with the Hammer Coach. Trigger guard is brass. This gun is from the 1810's-1820's. Metal has been cleaned and is nice and sharp. Gauge: 20 gauge. Gustav Kerstan 16 ga. with unique lock up ~ For the shotgunner that likes to show up with something completely different! Certainly #4 would be good. It was easy to handle and there wasnt much that could go wrong as long as the ammo was good. But this is just my opinion. Stoeger 410 Coach Gun for self-defense mods and setup. 25 Whittal Street, Birmingham. Second having access to backup rounds was considered, and third the intimidation of a laser sight/flashlight combination was also added with a folding stock. Antique Handguns Antique Longarms Bayonets, Swords, and Knives Gatling Guns Vintage Ammo and Other Related Items Don't Miss Out on News from Dixie Gun Works! Additionally, if youre going to spend extended time at the range or firing any kind of 3-inch magnum shells, just be aware the Hammer Coach comes with an old-school steel buttplate. This is a wonderful little 20g. of Edinburgh Scotland ~ A solid Scottish double that is ready for the field, W.W. Greener Model FH35 ~ This is a very original Greener with 2 3/4" proofs, Watson Brothers boxlock with newer barrels by John Dickson & Son. Thomas Wild 12g. Some of the side-by-side shotgun manufacturers that we carry are: Mossberg , CZ USA, and Stoeger. Metal has mostly plum brown patina. and RR Thurston. This gun is very tight on face. Manufrance "Ideal" grade "2R" in very nice condition! & Co. No thanks. It would be gone if properly oil finished. Petrik 16 ga Over&Under~ Only 5lbs. The 33 1/2" round barrels are 44 caliber rifled and 12 gauge smooth bore with a blade, From a mid-west sale, a very nice antique percussion Rifle/Shotgun side by side combination gun with patch box. Another company that produces some great short double guns is Stoeger. Today, side-by-side shotguns themselves are fairly uncommon, only made by a handful of companies. For longer-range use, the Hornady 20-gauge Lite Slug is a great choice. Wells Fargo Belgium Double Barrel 12 GA. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. It is very functional as is so I would use it as a rainy day gun and do nothing to it! Part octagon barrel that is abou, Ketland & Co. These chores include serving as a go-anywhere, do-anything, all-around tool for hunting, pest control and personal defense. The double-barrel is about as politically correct as a shotgun can be. I would not say it is really easy but is something that can certainly be learned. And yes my state allows you to chase them down outside and shoot them. Up close there is little spread on any shotgun round. Bores are approximately .70 caliber. We have had a number of Braddell guns over the years and they have always been very well made. Bores are bright, barrels ring like my church's bells. And not as expensive as some of the other big brand name ammo. While nostalgia has often drawn me to the acquisition of firearms, and the old side-by-side external hammer shotgun has certainly done so (to the tune of having a few in my collection), for real life tactical applications I much prefer the pump shotgun. The 20-gauge kicks about half as much as the 12-gauge and carries about 55% of the payload. Tight and light just like what many of you are looking for! But if you have your heart set on that exposed-hammer goodness, theres at least one other option out there if you dont want to hit the used market. $600.99. The pump shotgun and the self-loader are more complex, more expensive and more difficult to train with. Slide rack intimidation is now a thing of the past but a strobe light, green laser, and 14 quick rounds of buckshot is pretty damn intimidating!! Trick out or upgrade your firearm with the largest gun parts selection at eBay.com. This model does not break open. At home I chose another 500 that is a little more maneuverable but still has six rounds available with backup ammo attached to the stock. I had an incident here with a druggie scouting out my yard and shop and I stepped out in my underwear with a pump and racked a round and suggested he leave immediately. While I use birdshot for training, birdshot is by no means useful for personal defense. A very tight gun and with condition this nice little 28 features modern high stock dimensions with a decent lop which could be made up to 1" longer with a pad. Original Flip Up Site, 16 1/2 Barrel, Original Curly Mapel Stock. My other edc gun is a Winchester 86 extra light in 45-70. Subscription is available in print and digital editions atOutdoorGroupStore.com. This gun , built in the early 1900's, is of very high quality and craftsmanship. Just because you are small (she is 50 110lb) their is no need to fear a 12 ga. William Evans marketed this model as their "Best Quality" boxlock as they feature top notch engraving, wood, fit and finish and our gun is not an exception. . yes , my coach gun is a 12 with 000 buck, yes its great, range loads are Aurqila shorty slugs. The gun didnt do great on clays, but I can attribute that almost entirely to the shooter, not the gun. I am by no means an expert, but my thinking the coach gun known as a blunderbuss was a mussel loaded black powder gun. double black-powder muzzle-loader with 30" barrels and chokes of Left: CYL and the right of MOD. In hindsight I prefer the physical indications that a hammer fired weapon provides. Major and minor roadways have always been prime places for folks to get robbed by various forms of bandits. Wt. Magnificent 18-bore double flintlock sporting gun, made in 1806. If a round isnt already chamber, still gives the perp your location. This is a really cool gun! I used one like it for years and loved it. I recommend cocking only one hammer at a time until you are very familiar with the shotgun. Heavy, kicks like a mule, AND holds 2 cartridges? But then again carbines were not the topic of the article. Coach guns are fine IF all you expect to do is fire two rounds. Not every shooting/self defense is going to occur under perfect lighting while standing in front of a paper target that is not shooting back. A pump has more rounds on tap than the coach gun. *Note the great stock dimensions for many! Show Only Guns There are 16 models in their coach gun line in both 12 and 20 gauge with different finish and stock options, all with 20-inch barrels. Updated Gun Listing Notifications Built about 1898 this gem can be shipped direct. I received one for Christmas a couple of years ago. There is also the appeal of coach guns as a low-key defensive shotgun that doesnt have much negative connotation. Extremely short defensive shotguns, like the Ithaca Auto & Burglar model, were popular until the National Firearms Act in 1934. At best it will penetrate only a few inches of gelatin and would probably be stopped by winter clothing. I prefer #4 Buck in 12 gauge loads for self defense.#3 Buck in 20 gauge will do the jobCenter Mass hits at 15-20 yards/meters should stop and take the fight out of the Bad Guy. Very good points in the article, and certainly a SxS double is more compact than a pump, especially if you can find an 18 one. It functions fine but I don't find them as ergonomic as the top safe. The Condor Outback is also available with a less striking combo of blued steel and an A-grade walnut stock or a synthetic stock. Antique O/U 44/12 ga. Wisconsin Maker DST Patch Box Ex. Again it is practice/familiarization and what one has in their hands at the time of need. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. IMA USA - Both Vintage & Antique Double Barrel Shotguns Price range: $1995-$3000 IMA USA has a lot of different options for firearms, especially when it comes to vintage and antique finds. was built between the wars 1925-1930. defender and although the appearance doesnt have the same effect as a double it has an effect as a short barrel shotgun and the racking of the slide to chamber a round is unmistakable and a very effective psychological tool. Auction even circa 1937. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. :). Haha. This type of shotgun was once the preferredweapon to guard stagecoaches. I think somebody might be making 20 ga loads in #1 buck, but Im not sure. Their 1878 Coach Gun got its inspiration by an actual period coach gun in their collection. Featured Gun Classifieds Antique Shotguns - 1500-1850, Castiglioni, Brescia. My home defense is #3 buckshot in 20 ga in a shortened but vent rib Mossberg. In very nice condition for those of you (like myself) that are of the Churchill fan club. I really like this grade of Evans boxlocks as they feature extra's like double sears (an extra for safety on both barrels), extra high-grade engraving, and wood. birdshot is by no means useful for personal defense. The other option is to have it restocked to fit you! GunID: 4765. The modern hammer-fired double barrel has the advantage of simplicity. It is tight on face and has great stock dimensions and chokes and 2 3/4" proofed chambers. This gun was built between 1896 and 1900 so am researching it and if it was made before 1899 we will be able to ship direct to most states instead of to an ffl. This grade and higher feature a rising bite third fastener similar to the coveted Rigby rising third bite. Cylinder bore on both. The long stock we can easily arrange to be made to your personal LOP of course. The barrel is a dark plum brown patina. Fast & Free shipping on many items! I think the pictures will tell you all you need to know as they show the excellent condition this English boxlock is in. It may not have a great selection of antique double barrel options, but there are some quite valuable shotguns that you will want to look into. 509 -665 -7675. Weight: LARGE ENGLISH HUDSON BAY DOG-LOCK MARKET PUNT GUN CIRCA EARLY 1800S. We date this Agnew to 1909. Fla Detective in Upper Central Florida used a Shotgun taken from a drug house raidshortened barrels of Savage 311 ( I think ).his faith in that Also, firearms are deadly weapons if you arent mentally and emotionally prepared to kill the intruder, dont bring a gun. Rack the slide and the perp now has more tactical information about you than you have about him. Note the modern dimensions for rising birds. The load may be changed quickly if the problem is a dangerous animal such as a rattlesnake just outside the door or a predator such as a coyote farther away. Frame has unusual cocking indi .Click for more info Seller: LeRoy Merz Antique Guns Area Code: 218 $2,575.00 The pull back lever behind the trigger guard opens the gun and is extremely ergonomic. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). . Stock Dimensions: 14 3/8"LOP x " c .Click for more info Seller: Lewis Drake & Associates Area Code: 270 $13,500.00 Nock, London. We are offering for sale an Antique LONDON MADE Side by Side shotgun chambered in 12GA. The stock has numerous handling marks. Yeah, its a Chinese POS. Your discussions, feedback and comments are welcome here as long as they are relevant and insightful. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's A very nice petite 20g by George Bate, a small but well-respected English gun maker in the center of the Birmingham gun trade on Steel House Lane. One of the best sounds is the deep sound of the hollow tube when a fresh 12ga shell is ejected and a new one is inserted. and by James Woodward to say the least. As for me, a Mossberg 500 in .410, with 3 FEDERAL #4 Buck (Handgun) ammo, is my choice, Well. Dan, I thought that home invaders were pests and varmints to be controlled. For a gun with 28" barrels and a decent LOP this gun is light at 6 lbs. A very rare and fine 18-bore, O/U, flintlock sporting gun, ca. Whether or not you can handle it is another story. Id trust it at inside-the-house ranges, and the reduced recoil could be beneficial to people whod struggle with the recoil of buckshot. Rococo style carving on the stock. That is all, pretty much, still true. 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Comes with a rosewo, George Wallis of Hull 8 gauge duck gun The most celebrated gunsmith of Eastern Yorkshire England. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Here we present an antique Nicolas Noel Boutet Double Barrel Side by Si, This gun appears to be about 1/2 scale. If you're looking for something special, these rare guns can be customizable in every way. For those who wonder if the shot will leave the cup at short ranges, a tip: Use Rio Royal Buck no cup (I dont think other brands of buckshot do either I would never trust birdshot), extremely reliable, and certainly does the job. The sound of a pump action will scare the Hell out ofwhatever. Cimarron's 1878 Coach Gun, inspired by an original in our collection, is available in either the full-length 26-inch barrel, or the 20-inch barreled model, both capable of handling 3-inch shotshells, with the traditional exposed sidehammers, a pistol grip stock and schnabble forearm, blued barrels and a blued receiver. I have seen many double-barrel shotguns at ready in the home or on the farm, and they are capable of dispatching unwanted pests and varmints as well as members of our protein-fed ex-con criminal class. . Wood and metal. And coyotes and bad guys share some of the same qualities. The gun was nitro proofed in 1968 according to the proof marks on the flats. To be honest the difference to the BAD GUYs is going to be marginal at best and the Bad Guy(s) will never know the difference. While the company offers several models with double triggers, there are none with exposed hammers. If he is running the threat of danger has passed and if you shoot and hit him you open yourself up for prosecution. Category: Boxlocks. I prefer its striker design, but otherwise Im in total agreement with the author. Learned to fire it with some degree of accuracy by the time I was tall enough to reach the triggers. 1 2 3 8 Next . coach gun for sale and auction. A very tight and field ready Francotte with great dimensions. Very Rare Granville Henry Single Shot Percussion Shotgun. Availability: Please Call 1877 SIXGUN1. I prefer a pump action shotgun because just the sound of you racking a round in he chamber is the scariest sound in the world. Ex. Most of the shells fired have been Winchesters 7 birdshot. And I even used #4 in my .410 with excellent results. It is practical as well. Those case colors are original indicating this gun has seen very little use. All eight of the pellets from the 00 Buck rounds landed in the silhouette at 20 yards. The Triple Threat is the abbreviated version of the Triple Crown shotgun with 18.5-inch barrels. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. A 10 1/4-11 1/2 AR based carbine, such as a Colt Commando, XM177 or 607 is even better.

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